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  ATMs - CC - Travelers Checks

Here are some useful Money-related web sites.   Each has an ATM locator database which you can search for address of ATMs at your travel destination.  Visa lists all Visa and PLUS locations, while MasterCard lists all C/C and CIRRUS ATM locations.         PLUS system Visa ATM Locator     and    CIRRUS system MasterCard Locator    Jim Swensen
I'm planning for a trip to France and have been searching the net for advice on money exchanges. I believe the least expensive way to transfer money is using a debit card rather than a credit card for cash transactions.

The cost, I believe, for using A visa credit card for a cash advance is currently about 19% APR. In the past, I was advised by friends that one could avoid the interest for cash advances by prepaying the VISA account. However on our last trip to Mexico, I was surprised to see $5/pop fee which makes small cash advances inefficient. And, in looking at the fine print on my VISA statement, it appears that one can no longer avoid a fee of up to 4% of the money advanced (in addition to the 19% APR)

I have read that Mastercard/Cirrus ATM's are preferred as there is no interest penalty. In addition, I've read that they are more widely available in Europe. Not many banking institutions (in the US) are currently promoting Mastercard (only 8 in California); they all seem to be moving to VISA. So, I was happy to note the comment by Gwyn and Wayne that there are more Visa/Plus ATM's on the European scene. And, following through with the VISA locator, there do appear to be many ATM/PLUS locations now (in France).

A question I have regarding the 50 cent charge is: Was this for a debit or credit card? Was this for Mastercard or VISA. And, what banking institution do you use.

I would also like to share a source related to the above: www.twenj.com/monyand.htm         Ca. Reader, 24 April 2001


PLUS as well as CIRRUS systems worked in Italy, Switzerland, and France ATMs for Gwyn and Wayne Hirasa who just returned from Europe mid April. (This is a major change from a year ago. see below) Gwyn said the service charge for each ATM transaction was 50 cents.  And of course they got the best possible exchange rate using the ATM vs. Travelers Checques.  Wayne added that the ATMs made it convenient to get money after hours for their next day sight seeing , thus saving valuable day-time sight seeing time and avoided standing in bank or exchange service lines.   Gwyn & Wayne Hirasa   29 April 2000


........By the way Mele, I was reminded how very glad I was that you encouraged me to get an ATM card before we left. Great way to get money. It deals so efficiently with security/theft issues, money changing hassles and unexpected shortfalls of cash and is soooo convenient to boot. Really, I think, the only way to go. Marlee   27 June 99  

Marlee and everyone else, Generally the PLUS system works in UK and CIRRUS system on the continent. The PLUS system--most common for Hawaii banks--won't work most places on the continent.  One TERC reader reported her PLUS card was "eaten" by a Paris ATM machine April 99. I expect this to changes as the Euro$ becomes the standard for many countries by year 2002.

I love packing light with my money and take two ATM cards for my two checking accounts here in Hawaii.  One is PLUS and the other is CIRRUS. I can easily get cash when I need it at 10 PM in the Cinque Terre or Sunday AM in Bath--which use different systems.  Besides keeping my money belt thin--no traveler's checks-- I avoid lousy exchange rates with fees at exchange bureaus. I also carry several American $20 and $10 bills for those times I get stuck at a train station with "just an exchange bureau available" and only need a little extra local currency before I leave a country.

PLUS is the system used by most Hawaii Banks.  Territorial and First Hawaiian are the only two Hawaii Banks that use the CIRRUS system needed most places on the Continent.

We found Debit Cards used as Credit Cards and our regular Credit Cards of either system worked fine both on the Continent and the UK for purchases.           Mele   27 June 99


Mele there is something sinister about Visa - it can't find a single ATM in Copenhagen, even though all other Danish cities have them.  MasterCard has scads of locations in Copenhagen.  Hard to believe Copenhagen dosen't take Visa......Jim Swensen  23 Mar . 99.  

Jim, I'm not surprised about your NOT FINDING a Plus system ATM in Copenhagen. (You probably can use Visa CC for purchases.) My experience has been that PLUS system works PRIMARILY in the UK and CIRRUS works PRIMARILY on the Continent for ATM withdrawals of your own money sitting in your home bank account.  ( hopefully this will change with the arrival of the EURO CURRENCY).  Credit Cards of both types work for purchases almost EVERYWHERE.         Mele Fujiwara


Cash Tips for Traveler
  • Obtain $50 to $100 per person worth of foreign currency for each country you will be visiting before you leave the USA.

  • Withdraws can easily be made from your personal checking account using the Cirrus or Plus network ATMS. The Cirrus network is most widely accepted. We found Plus in only a few places. Our bank charged us only $1.00 for withdraws and had a good exchange rate.

  • Prepay your Visa card at regular intervals and make cash advances. TREAT IT LIKE A BANK ATM CARD!. The credit balance on your account will make the advance interest free but you will still incur the 2.5% transaction fee. We used Citibank Visa and found the exchange rates to be very good. Remember that the charges you make will also be used against your credit balance so to avoid the interest, make payments at regular intervals. We found Visa not widely accepted in Holland.       We relied heavily on our prepaid Visa and Traveler's checks to get us through Europe. We had a Plus card and wished we had a Cirrus card. We liked the idea of the ATM with their 24 hour access to cash, but found sometimes if the satellite was down, it was good we had traveler's checks for back up.

  • Withdraw money or cash traveler's checks in the country of the currency you need because cashing travelers checks before you arrive in that country will create expensive double exchange rates.

  • Take traveler's checks for emergencies. Traveler's checks can be obtained free for AAA members, along with great maps too. Traveler's checks are not treated as cash as they are in the US. There are charges to purchase and cash traveler's checks through out Europe.

  • Spend all of your coins inside the country you got them in, as they are worthless outside that country. Coins are neat, but very heavy souvenirs.   From Budget Article by Reader, Michele Crye


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  Budget Europe

Miscellaneous Surprise Expenses:
  • Some Inter-City trains have reservation charges even with first-class Eurail passes. No city busses accepted our Eurail passes for fare.

  • Postage cost $1 USD per postcard.

  • Some hostels/hotels had coin operated showers or charge per shower.

  • Sometimes, a double room in a one or two-star hotel is cheaper than two singles in a hostel.

  • Phone calls, even local ones are charged by the length of call and ate up our phone cards.

  •           Michele Cyre


  • BEST BUYS FROM LONDON TO STRATFORD UPON AVON

  • The best investment we made on our trip was the two hour "London Walks" Westminster Tour held on Saturday mornings (cost= 4 L). Molly, our delightful guide, was outstanding in providing wonderful information and many interesting tidbits that she has personally researched. We enjoyed the tour so much we went back on our own later to explore further. A discount is given at the end of the tour for those wishing to see the Cabinet War Rooms which makes this an even greater value.
  • Free organ recitals are given at Westminster Abbey on Sunday afternoons. Arrive about 4:45 and stay around to get a seat. (check these times--they sometimes change to earlier or skip a week-end due to holidays) We repeated this London highlight again this summer. ThereÕs nothing quite like the acoustics there!
  • Nice, yet inexpensive, souvenirs are available at the TI's throughout England. The people there were extremely helpful in locating B&Bs that met our price range and needs and in locating Sunday church services.
  • We felt the best buy in Stratford Upon Avon was the tour of Mary Arden's farmhome just outside the city. Tour guides were stationed around the buildings and grounds to tell story after story about life and times of those in the Elizabethan era. Fascinating!
  • In London, the best buy for a quick, refreshing afternoon treat has to be the 20p ice cream cone at McDonalds.

I hope some of these ideas will be helpful to those lucky enough to travel to England soon. Thanks for what you do......we love to read the TERC/ETBD publications!   Bill and Dianna Neal


We saved a lot of money by carrying our own water bottle which we refilled at our hotel, rather than buying beverages. I saw sodas costing as much as $10. and candy bars for $5. from a vending machine in Chantili.    DeAnna  & Jeffrey Damasiewicze


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  Foreign Currency & Tipping

Foreign Currency Update
  I bought some foreign currency today (Jan. 9, 00) from A-1 in the Hyatt. I called Bank of Hawaii, Capital Foreign Exchange, and Thomas Cook in addition to A-1 and compared exchange rates for French francs, Swiss francs, and British pounds (in addition to others) and A-1 by far had the best rates and didn't charge a commission as the others did. There was quite a difference in the rates. Unfortunately, A-1 doesn't have a large variety of currency and had no currency for Spain, Portugal or Belgium but did have the aforementioned ones.  Peter Bechtold of Mililani


Cash Tips for Traveler

· Obtain $50 to $100 per person worth of foreign currency for each country you will be visiting before you leave the USA.

· Withdraws can easily be made from your personal checking account using the Cirrus or Plus network ATMS. The Cirrus network is most widely accepted on the continent. We found Plus in only a few places--always good in the UK. Our bank charged us only $1.00 for withdraws and had the best exchange rate.

· Prepay your Visa card at regular intervals and make cash advances. The credit balance on your account will make the advance interest free but you will still incur the 2.5% transaction fee. We used Citibank Visa and found the exchange rates to be very good. Remember that the charges you make will also be used against your credit balance so to avoid the interest, make payments at regular intervals. We found Visa not widely accepted in Holland.

· Withdraw money or cash traveler's checks in the country of the currency you need because cashing travelers checks before you arrive in that country will create expensive double exchange rates.

· Take traveler's checks for emergencies. Traveler's checks can be obtained free for AAA members, along with great maps too. Traveler's checks are not treated as cash as they are in the US.

There are charges to purchase and cash traveler's checks through out Europe.  Michele Crye


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  Shopping Stratigies

London Shopping:  On Sunday we went to the Spittelfield Market, because regular stores were closed, and found some wonderful bargains. It's sort of a flea market, with antique/used stuff.   Larraine Sinclair

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