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  Train Travel Tips & Mis-adventures for Eastern Europe
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Serbia Train Travel was a Night Mare!!! Do your clients a favor and DO NOT sell them a Balkans Flex Pass!!

The trains in Serbia are absolutely awful!!! Dirty, poor or no service, train cars are ram shackled, old, dirty and generally a disgrace. The so called "1st Class" car smelled like urine and excrement --it is awful and the toilets are some of the worst I have ever seen and I have about covered the globe! The Train personnel are some of the worse yet---most cannot communicate except in Serbian or Russian--are totally uncooperative, unconcerned, unprofessional and have some of the worst attitudes I have seen outside the Soviet Bloc. They have about 4-5 people doing the job of one person and are lazy and worthless.

Our train yesterday was 6 1/2 hours late getting into Sofia---a trip requiring only 8 hours total! There was a series of long delays, including a very very long delay at the border. We arrived at 0010 am in the morning (scheduled 1835 pm) and the station was almost deserted, was told it would close in 20 min!! We were very lucky to have someone picking us up and our apartment is super with outstanding support provided by SaraTours( saratours@gmail.com) , our young agent Yanita Tsenova is super and this outfit provides very reliable friendly, personal service if you have anyone coming this way.

Some Canadian passengers lived a nightmare of a trip from Belgrade to Skopje. They were also on a Balkans Flex Pass and were pulled from their sleeper car (which they had paid for) at 0300 am and kept in a small guard shack on the border for hours without food, water or any means of communicating with anyone. No one spoke English and they were completely obstinate and unprofessional. They finally got on a train going back into Serbia and joined us on the way to Sofia. I have checked with the Macedonian Embassy here and there is NO REQUIREMENT for either US or Canadians to have a visa!

The so-called reservation that we were required to pay for from Budapest  (to Beograd ) is a joke! The 2nd class cars were modern and clean, even had a hook up for my laptop-- and were about 25% occupied---the 1st Class car where we have reservations was old coach type seats and had "1" other passenger in the entire car!!!

None of this is your fault or your doing -- so please do not be upset. I just felt you should be aware of what is going on here and the situation in this area, so you can advise your clients.

Cheers, Johnny  22 September 2006


Train Travel Tips & Mis-adventures for Europe

 Night Trains & Discounts


Sleeper Train Feedback   Just some feedback on the passes you sent me. We didn't have any problems using them. The sleeper compartment was not quite what we expected. We got a private compartment, but the speed of the train combined with the curves in the track made for a very shaky night. Still nocomplaints.

I did take advantage of the seniors discount in England. After paying for the seniors pass, with the trips we made we came out about 20% ahead.                    Thanks for your help.   G B of Sumas, WA  5 July 06


Jeff here. Just thought I'd drop a line and let you know the train tickets in Spain & Portugal worked fine and I'd recommend those Spanish trains to anyone. They were great and very comfy. Also great food included in the 1st class tickets. The double sleeper from Lisbon to Madrid was excellent. The Portugese trains weren't that great but were on time to the minute as were the Spanish ones. Unlike always late Amtrak. Thanks for your help. Jeff of Oak Ridge, TN  10 July 05
I've been curious about something about those sleeper trains.  How do you know when it's time to wake up?  I'd be afraid to fall asleep for fear I may sleep past my stop. Janice of LA Ca 24 April 05

Fortuneately the attendant for your car will make sure you get up and out when he returns your passports he collected when you checked in. Also. Venice and when you return, Paris are the last stop of each of these routes.  Mele of TERC


Hi Mele,  The train from Paris to Madrid was fine. I remembered (to late) that I never asked you how early to show up at the train station! We got there about 1 or 1 1/2 hr. early, so we were ok.   Just wanted to say hi and let you know that rail passes and reservations are going smoothly, and we are having a great time so far!   Liana of Northbrook, IL   4 July 04

 Arrive at a train station about 20-30 minutes before departure time so you have time to find your track, make sure the correct train is there, and then check in with attendant.  First travelers there get the best luggage storeage if you are using a 4 or 6 person couchette compartment.  Mele


Train Reservations in Italy: <<We have arrived in Milano today and had a question on the railpasses we purchased. We were told to make a reservation to get to Firenze, but it cost an additional ¤22. Are we required to purchase these reservations? I was under the impression that the passes we purchased covered us for most of the travel we were to do. We spent almost $500 on these passes, but if a ¤22 reservation will be required each time, what did the $500 passes buy us?>>

Yes you are If the route requires a reservation. But there are routes that do not require Seat reservations. You can ask for these departure times.

The Italy Rail passes cover the cost of point to point tickets AND do not cover reservation fees if requried.  In my 6 July email to you re Timetables, etc. I did say "I am going to put the printed timetables into the US mail so you can have them to take with you. Keep in mind ES or Eurostar Italia Trains require an additional $19 per/person per/train seat reservation before you can board. Time tables that say "Please reserve" mean it is not required but suggested. " Did you get the timetables before you left???

 <<Please help us out as we are leaving today, but obviously want to be prepared if this will happen on our travels each day."  

I no longer have your e-mail with your list of destinations and dates of travel. Send me your destinations, dates of travel and desired time of travel, I and will find routes for you that do not require seat reservations. I will then e-mail timetables to you.

I'm sorry the possibility of making reservations was not made clearer to you before you left.  Unfortuneately Italian train system has some of the most expensive reservation fees in Europe. Be assured that your rail pass saved you money over purchasing point to point tickets. Ms. Mele Fujiwara, Travel Consultant e-mail: tercmele@aol.com

PS:  Thank you so much for the information. We have figured out our way around and avoided most fees. After we looked, we were definitely happy about the deal you provided us. Thanks for your time in responding and helping us out.  Joseph Falcone 28 July 04


Just wanted to let you know to advise people that it really might NOT be possible to schedule Spanish trains on the spot.

The train in Perpignan, France was easy to schedule on the spot -- though we could not take our first choice--had to take a later milk run -- but the train from Barcelona to Malaga was completely sold out for days and the station in Barcelona required waits in 3 numbered queues taking almost 4 hours for general information, then information on that particular line, then the purchase line where it was finally possible to establish that it was impossible to take the train--

We went to the Europecar office in the station and changed our rental so we drove 1000km to Malaga--which provided further adventures and worked just fine--

We had a great trip overall and of course want to go back and spend more time and know to BOOK some things sooner the next time!  Karen of Alaska 11 August 03



Booking Trains & couchettes in Europe via cyberspace  The train trip from Copenhagen to Paris was ALMOST uneventful. I found the schedule online at DB website, then my cousin Ole booked train and reservations by phone from the Danish equivalent of AAA in Roenne, Bornholm. The whole trip cost me 1500 DKK (less than $200). The couchette reservation was only 190 Kroner (about $20.00!). The only thing that went wrong was when I boarded the last leg (the night train) in Hamburg to go to Paris. The car/cabin I was booked into was jam-packed, and I was in with 5 high school kids. Not only that, but I was in the even less spacious top bunk. I tried to get to sleep, but without success. SO I spoke to the conductor, and he moved me to a couchette which had only 1 other man in it, and that ended the problem. SO much for the "almost" uneventful trip!  Jim Swensen  (from his May 2000 Road Reports)


First Train Adventure:. Aside from getting on the wrong train at Rotterdam, and having to change later to the Amsterdam train, it's been relatively simple to get around. I had a happy accident on my train to Amsterdam. The car I rode in was marked 1-No Smoking and 2-smoking (this is a double-decker train) and I thought this meant what it said, but it turned out that 1 was first class - NOT 1st floor!  Anyway, no one came by to check my ticket, so it was not a problem. I guess this was my first first-class upgrade..

Scandinavia Train Tip:  Don't spend extra money for a FIRST CLASS ScanRail pass unless you're willing to make reservations WELL in advance (like a MINIMUM of 3 days). I have not been able to get a first-class seat yet, they're always full. And I can't get on the night train to Stockholm tonight, (it's full) so I have to leave tomorrow morning and waste a whole day on the train.  Jim Swensen  (from his June '99 Road Reports)


Sold on Training  My husband and I used trains exclusively on our Europe adventure and loved it. We found every one very obliging. Roasting in our sleeper car between Rome and Paris, we told the conductor, and he turned the heat off—for the whole car. We also learned that there is no difference between first class & second class sleepers for two, except for price. We had the locked compartment and never had any one added to our sleeper. From then on we reserved second class sleepers and saved money. Mele, emphasize the idea of initiating conversations with European companions in your train compartment. We met so many interesting people this way. Europeans like to practice their English if you start talking first.    Valarie Chinn—Kaimuki Budget Europe Student


Get to Chunnel Departure Earlier   The recommended 20 minute pre-boarding time for the Chunnel crossing was too short—you could miss your train. I recommend people show up at least 40 minutes before departure. Lines are long. We found there were two lines—one for people checking luggage and one for us light packers with carry ons. This line was shorter. Don't get alarmed by the seat numbers—it looked like my husband and I weren't sitting together—numbering has skips—but we were. Bring Food! Valarie Chinn—Kaimuki Budget Europe Student
First vs Second Class:  —next time we will definitely get 1st class Europasses—They work great, but we will go 2nd class on the Chunnel. This trip we opted for 1st Class Chunnel to Paris, thinking the meal would be almost worth the extra.  (They returned by 2nd class chunnel)  It wasn't. Just airline food (maybe a tad better) and service—not worth it."      From Reader's article:  A Five Week Journey  Marlene and Martin Hall, Big Island of Hawaii.
For travelers who will be vagabonding by train, I recommend taking Thomas Cook timetable. Some stations dosn't have English speaking train information agents, or their hours may be limited and the information posted on the schedules can be confusing, especially if you need to transfer trains. In my case, I was going from Lake Como to Interlaken—The Eurail timetable had me traveling in a round-about route via Zurich and Bern. An Australian, who I met at the local hostel, whipped out his Thomas Cook and gave me instructions for a more direct and scenic route via Lucerne.   Robert Kaneshiro of Honolulu

    "Toilet Training in Europe"    TERC Reader & Mele article re. Toilets on Trains

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  Ferries - Boats - Waterways

Scandinavia:
 Bornholm, Denmark:  The new fast ferry seems to be the local jinx. I was supposed to be on one of it's first voyages today, but last week on a practice run they hit the dock too hard in Rønne and put a hole in the side, so it went to the yards to be fixed. So now it should go into service next Monday, if they don't break it again! That will shorten the trip to Bornholm to about 3 hours. After July 1st, (2000) the new Øresund bridge connecting Copenhagen to Malmo, Sweden is supposed to open (it's finished now, but they want to have a party....). This will mean you can take a train from Copenhagen's central Station to Ystad, Sweden (about 1 1/2 hours) then the fast ferry to Rønne, about another 1 1/4 hours.   Jim Swensen     kermit@lava.net


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  Flying to Europe

Found a cheap flight to london! finaly found a cheap flight to london from NYC for January for $350.00 round from http://www.imandi.com/ The site hooks you up with agents who bid on your sale. I got five offers and this was the best. You may want to check it out!    ellie  04-Nov-1999
Plane Ticket Tips
  • Any discounted ticket has restirctions. Be sure you understand these before you buy your ticket
  • Study your ticket carefully. If anything is unclear, ask for an explanation.
  • When overseas, reconfirm your return flight at least 3 days before departure. If you don't the airline may cancel your reservation and resell your seat.
  • Consider an "Open Jaw" ticket, which means flying into one city and returning from another. This can be a great time and money saver!
  • Keep your tickets in a money belt—under your clothing. Make 2 copies of your tickets—leaving one with some at home and the other with your traveling companion—or in your bag. Lost or stolen tickets are not easily replaced and this may help ease the process of getting reticketed.
  • Know the fare you paid, flight and ticket numbers, and travel dates.  Mele


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  Air Deals Around Europe

...add RyanAir to your airline links -- they have some great fares. I'm flying this May from Beauvais (just north of Paris) to Dublin, and then from Dublin to Charleroi (just south of Brussels) for a total cost of just $109! Their site is: http://www.ryanair.com/     Gregory  Wahl,   Monday 07-Feb-2000
Europebyair.com
 Purchased 12 coupons for our family - everything went exceedingly well. I figured we saved over $1500 easily. I would highly recommend this product for people who want to "hopscotch" around Europe. I don't think the train will be any less expensive.     Leah    Monday, 01-Nov-1999
The whole Europe by Air thing went off without a hitch. I was only able to confirm one the flights (from London to Rome) ahead of time but there was no problem on any of them. The only hitch is that the "airport taxes" can be pretty steep - the highest being about 23 BP from Luton, as I recall.  Marlee of Oahu 14 June 99


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  Scenic Train Rides


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  Driving in Europe

We found our car a liability on this two-week trip to Northern Italy. Parking was at a premium even in small towns such as Menaggio and Bergamo. In Ravenna, only residents were allowed to park in certain parts of town. Parking in Milan is definitely a problem--we paid L42,000 per night to park in a public lot next to the hotel. There is NO parking available on the streets until after business hours. People here even park on the sidewalk.   We stayed in Rio Maggiore, Cinque Terra, and paid L15,000 per night for parking and had to walk three blocks down a steep hill with our luggage to our hotel. (That was the easy part. From there it was another block and three flights of stairs to the room with easy access.) The areas we visited were all lovely and we would definitely return but next time we would hook up with a tour or take the train and backpacks.   Carol Morrison of Costa Mesa, Ca October 30, 2000
CHAMONIX, France to AOSTA, Italy:
       Aloha, Bonjour Mele,       It's very nice to hear from you.   We hope you & your daughter are doing well. From time to time, we get some guests from Hawaii & they tell us how you're doing!  We really enjoy meeting you & your group , on your visit to Chamonix.  Here is the answers to your question.

The Tunnel is still closed   The best way to get to Aosta is to take the train from Chamonix to Aosta (Chamonix-Martigny-Aosta)   (You can also drive this route in about 2.5 hr.--search driving route at: http://www.shellgeostar.com)

Best regards   A bientot     25 Aug, 2000  Laurence & Manu  of Chalet-Beauregard, Chamonix Mont-Blanc, France www.chalet-beauregard.com       reservation@chalet-beauregard.com      tel/fax 04 50 55 86 30


UK Driving Tip:  Go to a convenience store after picking up your British Car and buy a red and white "Learner's" Sign.  It has a Big Red L on a white background.  Put it in your car window and watch the Brits give you a wide birth on their highways.  Charlene Towne of Oahu  phoned in this great driving tip.

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  Biking in Europe

Amsterdam is CRAZY with bicycles. I can see why. We think we have a traffic problem in Honolulu, but it pales by comparison. Instead of road-hogs, Amsterdam has narrow streets with tram tracks and "bicycle lanes". Of course, bicyclists only use them when it's convenient seeming to prefer the walkways and pushing pedestrians around at random. Bicycles seldom stop for traffic signals or other traffic (foot or vehicular) so one must be on guard constantly. You'll get the finger from a cyclist if you get in his/her way.  Jim Swensen  (from his June '99 Road Reports)
Italy Bike Tour worked out well altho I don't recommend taking a 78 year old. Mom did well and the guides were very accomodating but......... also, anyone considering such a thing should be reasonably proficient on a bicycle and should spend some time doing at least a little training/preparation. Ididn't and was sorry. The tour guides were very helpful and very nice, the food was good, the lodgings were all acceptable or better. The major disadvantage was the pretty fast pace which had us spending only one nite in every place that we went. I'll give you their catalogue for future reference. Bike tour web site:  http://www.frii.com/~explus/    Marlee  14 June '99
     Cycling Europe

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  Getting Around Europes Cities

Copenhagen has their own "red bus"
. I used it and found it quite worthwhile and informative. They have a website you can link to. It's www.copenhagenpride.dk     Hope you find this useful,  Jim Swensen  20 May 2000
In Copenhagen I used a Copenhagen card to get around on the bus and to visit Rosenborg. It was also good for attractions. Jim Swensen  (from his June '99 Road Reports)
London:  We got around London mainly by Tube. It was a great, cheap mode of transportation, but it totally disoriented me. I had no idea what part of London I was in.   Larraine Sinclair

Rome: from the front lines of Catholicism  see  Sarah's signt seeing tips

Hi All, today we jumped on the metro to the Vatican - only to find that we were on the wrong platform and when we had to go back out to get to the other side, we invalidated the tickets we had just spent 5 euros on. Dang. But now we're whizzes with the ticket machine ... so we go to the stop for the Vatican Museums, get out, and find a Barack Obama-esque line that goes on for blocks - and here we thought we were bright and early! - Sarah G of Laramie, WY  18 March 2008

          Get Around Europe's Cities   subway - bus - taxi   links to city public transportation in Europe

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